[Osta-board] More on the list serv

bcarlsen bcarlsen at reed.edu
Fri Feb 26 23:30:43 PST 2010 

Good evening, Lynda,

        I don't think that Dave realizes that you have over 850 people  
on the list-serve, and that they include the entire spectrum of  
science educators.  Elementary teachers, vendors, and indeed most  
people on that list have little time and/or interest in pursuing or  
reading about the "change and improvement" discussions that this U of  
O science ed prof proposes.  Dave is on his computer more that 4 times  
a day!

        In earlier times, electronic bulletin boards existed for his  
proposed string of discussion.  Perhaps Facebook, Twitter, and Blogs  
are today's mode of communication.  But I think that it was very  
presumptuous of him to attempt to take over your list-serve for his  
own purposes, no matter how well-meaning he may be.

       Rather that alienating him, you may be able to channel his  
electronic enthusiasm into helping OSTA and the science community with  
his energy.  Your initial reply to him was right on.  Let's see what  
happens from here.

       Thank you for all that you do!
                Best wishes,  Bernie

btw: it is interesting that Moursund is at Eugene.  Most of the  
college exhibitors and student members come from Corvallis ! ! !

Quoting Lynda <sandsciosta at charter.net>:

> The reply from the person on the list serv who started the whole  
> stampede of unsubscribes is shown below.  I think we've had at least  
> 20 or more unsubscribe to the list serv because of this situation.   
> I have not had time to go in and manually unsubscribe those who  
> responded to the discussion and asked to unsubscribe.
>
> I just wanted to keep you updated.  I will respond to him and  
> explain that we are not trying to limit discussion which can take  
> place on Facebook.  If he wishes to start a discussion a note can be  
> placed in the eTOST directing those interested in having a  
> discussion to Facebook.
>
> Any thoughts or suggestions is always appreciated.
>
> --
> Lynda Sanders
> OSTA President
> NBC Early Adolescent Science
>
>> Subject: Re: [Osta] Discussions on the listserv
>> From: David Moursund <moursund at uoregon.edu>
>> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:28:29 -0800
>> Cc: David Moursund <moursund at uoregon.edu>
>> To: Lynda <sandsciosta at charter.net>
>>
>> Hi Lynda:
>>
>> I suppose that my main goal is to help get the science education  
>> community in Oregon to actively pursue the topics I named and other  
>> topics that are at the frontiers of science education.
>>
>> It seems to me that an ongoing and active distribution list is one  
>> way to get relatively wide involvement. I have no idea if Facebook  
>> will accomplish the same thing. I am not aware of examples of  
>> successful use of Facebook in such academic endeavors.
>>
>> If I am recalling correctly, it seems to me that there are over 200  
>> people on the distribution list. Maybe a dozen responded directly  
>> to me or to the whole list requesting their names to be removed  
>> from the list. Perhaps you have received a much larger number who  
>> directly followed the procedure for removing their names from the  
>> list.
>>
>> On any list-based discussion such as I have prompted, a modest  
>> number of people participate actively and a very high percentage  
>> "lurk."  My hunch is that you are being too hasty in your decision  
>> to change the procedure for posting to the list. Why not wait until  
>> the dust settles and those who don't want to be on the list have  
>> removed themselves from it? At the same time, actively seek out  
>> people who will bring up other major science education "change and  
>> improvement" topics and help guide their discussion on the list.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:55 PM, Lynda wrote:
>>
>> > The OSTA listserv has been a source of  information for our  
>> members.  I as the list serv moderator I have been very careful  
>> about sending out an e-mail at most once per week so that people  
>> are not indunated with e-mails they don't wish to receive.
>> >
>> > OSTA has a Facebook page that can provide a venue for great  
>> discussions like this.  This would then bring the list serv back to  
>> its intended purpose - to relay information.  Discussions while  
>> great have a place.  We have not intended the list serv to serve in  
>> this manner.
>> >
>> > If you wish to continue the dialog please take it to our Facebook  
>> page.  Here is the link  
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Oregon-Science-Teachers-Association-OSTA/279349196386?v=photos&ref=ts#!/pages/Oregon-Science-Teachers-Association-OSTA/279349196386?v=wall&ref=ts
>> >
>> > For the present time I will be moderating all mail coming through  
>> the list serv.  I will unsubscribe those who asked this weekend but  
>> may e-mail you first to be sure that is still what you wish to do  
>> if we just provide information and not discussions on the list  
>> serv.  If the e-mails sent to the list provide useful information,  
>> I will place that information in one of the eTOST issues.
>> >
>> > I hope this resolves some issues people were having and opens the  
>> doors for those who wish to have discussions on our Facebook page.
>> > --
>> > Lynda Sanders
>> > List serv Moderator
>> > OSTA President
>> > NBC Early Adolescent Science
>> >
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>> Dave Moursund
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>> University of Oregon, Eugene, Oregon 97403
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